tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post3715265779749778809..comments2023-08-12T08:41:01.080+01:00Comments on Green Bristol Blog: Bullshit CornerChris Hutthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01532451004057748734noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post-23149810356546716172009-08-10T19:54:47.073+01:002009-08-10T19:54:47.073+01:00Bit flowery for my taste but what it says is that ...Bit flowery for my taste but what it says is that there is a big job to do because our poor transport system is letting down a city that overall is pretty sucsessful.<br />It does not pretend that the transport system is right and it also gives the strong steer that sustainability is going to be a big factor.<br />Somehow I think that "join a bunch of dinosaurs who really do not give a damn" is less likely to attract anybody who has some imagination and a good chance of making real progress.<br />Of course life would be an awful lot easier if central government let us get on with the job but ring conjestion charging is not the only possible solution.Gary Hopkinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post-70215284316678200232009-08-03T13:53:10.949+01:002009-08-03T13:53:10.949+01:00Hah, love the bullshit detector.
While some cynic...Hah, love the bullshit detector.<br /><br />While some cynicism is probably well in order, I'm not entirely sure about the "Turkeys don't vote for Christmas" thing here.<br /><br />I think in Bristol an inner city peak-time congestion charge might even stand a chance in a public vote *if* the offer was right. Such a "right" offer might involve a number of tram lines instead of showcase bus routes (which includes the BRT). One can dream, right?<br /><br />But of course that's not going to happen, because busses are cheaper in the short run and easier and faster to deliver (sigh). Well, better than nothing I guess.<br /><br />Having said that, there are areas where public vote style decision-making fails, and I think congestion charging might be one of those.<br /><br />As for the 'realities of the situation' - I still wonder how much of all that is political laziness, unwillingness or ineptitude, and how much is due to immutable externally-imposed circumstances/limitations.<br /><br />I simply fail to believe that a prosperous and growing city like Bristol can't sort itself out transport-wise. Does the city really depend so much on central government funding that it can't move forward substantially without?<br /><br />(Wandered off a bit again, apologies.)Timnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post-28088433290553892482009-08-03T13:01:12.126+01:002009-08-03T13:01:12.126+01:00But do you "talk them into it" by trying...But do you "talk them into it" by trying to explain the realities of the situation or by bamboozling them with wildly unrealistic fantasies? <br /><br />I'd go along with the former but not the latter.Chris Hutthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01532451004057748734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post-11451033478414318202009-08-03T12:41:27.176+01:002009-08-03T12:41:27.176+01:00'when it comes to the crunch the turkeys aren&...'when it comes to the crunch the turkeys aren't going to vote for Christmas (as demonstrated by the Manchester congestion charging referendum'<br /><br />isn't the point of democracy that people have control over the decisions which control their lives?<br /><br />Therefore, if the people want something which differs from your point of view, then it is either tough, or you have to talk them in to it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-225087846795766487.post-51560343389828946122009-08-03T11:45:10.994+01:002009-08-03T11:45:10.994+01:00What's the betting that the new transport wonk...What's the betting that the new transport wonk will be blind to the opportunities that could be made of Bristol's woefully underused rail network?woodsyhttp://www.bristolwireless.net/news/noreply@blogger.com